Lex, thank you so much for having me on the podcast. It was an honor.
Hey Lex, love your show. I am a recently retired FBI agent with 22 years experience who has recruited and managed many cooperating witnesses during my career. I know the point of this particular episode was to gain a better understanding of human behavior, and I can see you struggling during this episode with the concept of human "loyalty" and "integrity" when it comes to relationships. So I wanted weigh-in to bring you a different perspective that you may not have considered. Disloyalty often does not happen in a vacuum, especially when you are talking about criminal behavior where someone puts themselves in a compromising position. Many times, such a person who appears to be acting disloyal, is actual doing so out of loyalty to another, i.e. their family. And when we are talking about family, often times the pull to cooperation is the one-two punch of loyalty + responsibility to those that depend on them at home. In other words, if a criminal puts loyalty to their co-conspirators first and as a result, becomes an absentee parent/spouse due to a lengthy prison sentence that could have been reduced or avoided by cooperating, isn't that simultaneously an act of disloyalty to their families and dependents? I am only pointing this out because if you are coming away from this discussion assessing that humans are inherently disloyal, I would caution you that you may be looking at this too one dimensionally. Don't get me wrong, many times people are disloyal just out of pure selfishness and lack of integrity, but often times its more complicated then that. I would assess that the vast majority of people I gained cooperation from did so out of loyalty to those that were more important to them. Just understand that sometimes being loyal to more than one person becomes a mutually exclusive circumstance in that an act of disloyalty to one is really an act of loyalty to another. Anyway, hope this helps.
Ive listened to probably thousands of hours of podcasts. 7 days a week, at least 8 hours a day, fixing surfboards and tuned into something. Just finished this one today and wow, hands down one of the best podcasts i've ever listened to. What a roller coaster of emotions and feelings, what a story, what a life. Unreal.
Shortest 6 hour podcast I’ve ever listened to. Bravo Lex!
This episode is so good it needs an award. Matt is so good at explaining his life and recollecting things in a nuanced way
So far this is the best criminal interview had ever been recorded in history
This man’s ability to recall details from every story is amazing
This guy’s storytelling is impeccable.
This is probably the best interview I’ve ever listened to. Just finished all six hours. And I’m going to listen again.
Matt Cox is probably the only dude i could listen to for 6 hours straight.
“So tell us a little bit about your self Matt.” Spills guts for 6 straight hours.
Listening to Matt is like listening to hypnotic lullaby. Dude is so articulate, no wonder why he was able to con so many people. Super smart and great speaker
This is by far the best podcast I’ve ever listened to. Every second of it.
It was nice of Lex to actually come onto Matt's show like this.
This is, without a doubt, one of the best podcast episodes I've listened to so far. - Before listening to the episode: Who the hell would listen to a 6-hour podcast episode? 🤣 - After listening to the episode: Thank you for bringing it to the world, Lex. 🙏
when a story is this captivating, 6 hours doesn’t even seem long enough
This will be my first time listening to a 6 hour podcast.
This guy’s story deserves a movie
I always LOVE when they let this man fully talk and tell his story! He is one of the best story tellers I've ever seen and can really make 6 hours feel like 1
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